Leader Board
Strategy Name
|
Trades
|
C2Star
|
Sub Fee
|
All time
|
|
Max DD
|
Return
|
Action |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Futures Bridge![]()
Manager:
BridgeSwiss
|
|
$200/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+2.34%
+$4,030
+11.02%
+$17,400
+8.45%
+$13,600
+46.5%
+$76,500
|
4
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.25
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
1.65
Sharpe ratio
43.75%
% Profitable
1 year
Strategy age
516.52
3.318
Average Leverage
30.3 hours
Trade Speed
|
(21.2%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+46.5%
Annual Returnsince Apr 05, 2024 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Steady MAKE money![]()
Manager:
RayHsieh
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+8.26%
+$17,200
+47.50%
+$72,500
+40.18%
+$64,500
+50.2%
+$130,000
|
47
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.23
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
0.83
Sharpe ratio
58.18%
% Profitable
1+ year
Strategy age
714.46
2.737
Average Leverage
6.4 days
Trade Speed
|
(54.8%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+50.2%
Annual Returnsince Sep 20, 2023 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
AI TQQQ only swing![]()
Manager:
QuantTiger
|
|
$120/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(0.26%)
($120)
+9.36%
+$4,040
+83.17%
+$21,300
+43.4%
+$40,300
|
29
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.36
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.91
Sharpe ratio
50.16%
% Profitable
4 years
Strategy age
1792.54
2.752
Average Leverage
3.9 days
Trade Speed
|
(51.0%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+43.4%
Annual Returnsince Oct 07, 2020 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Cryptoverse![]()
Manager:
Shay_Cohen
|
|
$30/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(0.48%)
($160)
+21.31%
+$5,800
+38.69%
+$9,150
+41.2%
+$23,000
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
5.33
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
0.82
Sharpe ratio
46.82%
% Profitable
3 years
Strategy age
1178.74
0.692
Average Leverage
2.5 months
Trade Speed
|
(49.8%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+41.2%
Annual Returnsince Jun 13, 2022 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Sage Volatility Margin![]()
Manager:
Sage_Volatility
|
|
$90/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+4.93%
+$5,850
+8.85%
+$10,100
+21.23%
+$21,700
+25.3%
+$110,000
|
21
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.50
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
0.79
Sharpe ratio
31.34%
% Profitable
9 years
Strategy age
3395.20
1.188
Average Leverage
12.7 days
Trade Speed
|
(34.9%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+25.3%
Annual Returnsince May 18, 2016 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
EDGE AGENTIC LLM![]()
Manager:
EdgebridgeCapital
|
|
$39/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+0.26%
+$180
+4.61%
+$3,030
+8.92%
+$5,600
+18.3%
+$18,800
|
8
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.13
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
1.03
Sharpe ratio
61.54%
% Profitable
1+ year
Strategy age
637.23
0.650
Average Leverage
17.1 days
Trade Speed
|
(20.3%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+18.3%
Annual Returnsince Dec 06, 2023 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
SPDR![]()
Manager:
DavidOwen2
|
|
$50/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+1.74%
+$1,790
+2.74%
+$2,790
+5.72%
+$5,650
+9.9%
+$16,900
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
3.29
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.58
Sharpe ratio
84.80%
% Profitable
1+ year
Strategy age
617.33
0.408
Average Leverage
6.5 days
Trade Speed
|
(4.7%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+9.9%
Annual Returnsince Dec 26, 2023 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Strategy 27![]()
Manager:
ParnaliaEquitiesLLC
|
|
$99/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+5.58%
+$6,050
+15.69%
+$15,600
+4.16%
+$4,570
+34.2%
+$65,000
|
30
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.34
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.85
Sharpe ratio
56.06%
% Profitable
2 years
Strategy age
981.29
1.104
Average Leverage
6.1 months
Trade Speed
|
(44.7%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+34.2%
Annual Returnsince Dec 27, 2022 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
BOOST 2![]()
Manager:
AdiPlaut
|
|
$0/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+7.02%
+$1,930
+4.91%
+$1,380
+10.75%
+$2,860
+39.8%
+$9,850
|
14
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.65
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.06
Sharpe ratio
35.26%
% Profitable
1 year
Strategy age
435.68
0.907
Average Leverage
34.3 days
Trade Speed
|
(33.5%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+39.8%
Annual Returnsince Jun 25, 2024 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
SGpro1![]()
Manager:
PeemLorvidhaya
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+1.4%
+$1,720
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.43
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
77.55%
% Profitable
4 days
Strategy age
4.48
25.950
Average Leverage
Too new
Trade Speed
|
(1.6%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+1.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 30, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Rendimax![]()
Manager:
PaoloCamilli
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+4.57%
+$2,350
-
$0
-
$0
+7.1%
+$3,820
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
3.25
:1
W:L Ratio
$5,000
Suggested Capital
2.26
Sharpe ratio
49.09%
% Profitable
56 days
Strategy age
56.21
1.721
Average Leverage
9.7 days
Trade Speed
|
(6.2%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+7.1%
Cumul. Returnsince Jul 09, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
MarketMindsBeatSPX![]()
Manager:
PAFI
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+4.85%
+$5,050
+9.98%
+$9,850
+14.31%
+$13,500
+7.9%
+$8,800
|
7
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.01
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.60
Sharpe ratio
70.91%
% Profitable
6 months
Strategy age
194.87
0.896
Average Leverage
55.8 days
Trade Speed
|
(21.3%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+7.9%
Cumul. Returnsince Feb 20, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
PaceSetter![]()
Manager:
NexusWealthSystems
|
|
$50/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+4.24%
+$360
+4.36%
+$360
+9.85%
+$760
+5.9%
+$1,270
|
10
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.18
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.40
Sharpe ratio
50.00%
% Profitable
9 months
Strategy age
293.40
0.996
Average Leverage
3.8 months
Trade Speed
|
(17.9%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+5.9%
Cumul. Returnsince Nov 14, 2024 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Quantum Flow![]()
Manager:
MarcinKurzawa
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(2.37%)
($3,360)
+36.28%
+$36,900
-
$0
+38.3%
+$38,800
|
11
C2 Heart Attack Index
7.21
:1
W:L Ratio
$140,000
Suggested Capital
2.10
Sharpe ratio
57.14%
% Profitable
3 months
Strategy age
93.42
6.700
Average Leverage
30.9 hours
Trade Speed
|
(20.3%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+38.3%
Cumul. Returnsince Jun 02, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Big Player and Momentum![]()
Manager:
StefRuf
|
|
$125/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+2.34%
+$1,170
+6.86%
+$3,280
+3.59%
+$1,750
+0.3%
+$1,410
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.23
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
-0.15
Sharpe ratio
52.94%
% Profitable
7 months
Strategy age
239.52
0.644
Average Leverage
47.1 days
Trade Speed
|
(12.4%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+0.3%
Cumul. Returnsince Jan 07, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Hydra Options Spreads![]()
Manager:
TheFinancialCloud
|
|
$150/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+2.58%
+$1,410
+8.65%
+$4,440
+10.68%
+$5,350
+9.9%
+$6,250
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.23
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.29
Sharpe ratio
54.67%
% Profitable
6 months
Strategy age
185.31
4.736
Average Leverage
10.3 days
Trade Speed
|
(8.9%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+9.9%
Cumul. Returnsince Mar 02, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
BOOST 4![]()
Manager:
AdiPlaut
|
|
$0/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+0.8%
+$560
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.33
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
47.62%
% Profitable
21 days
Strategy age
21.32
1.114
Average Leverage
5.4 days
Trade Speed
|
(2.9%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+0.8%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 13, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Equity Empire Options![]()
Manager:
SPRF
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+6.83%
+$750
(2%)
($230)
+52.73%
+$3,860
+32.4%
+$3,790
|
23
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.00
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
0.77
Sharpe ratio
67.39%
% Profitable
8 months
Strategy age
267.90
4.360
Average Leverage
13.1 days
Trade Speed
|
(32.4%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+32.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Dec 10, 2024 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Strangle King![]()
Manager:
Brambo
|
|
$75/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+1.11%
+$690
-
$0
-
$0
+24.4%
+$12,400
|
6
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.80
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
2.14
Sharpe ratio
65.32%
% Profitable
2 months
Strategy age
85.26
2.067
Average Leverage
7.9 days
Trade Speed
|
(11.2%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+24.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Jun 10, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
3ple Lever![]()
Manager:
JCLever
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+3.27%
+$1,120
+8.35%
+$2,720
-
$0
+15.8%
+$5,600
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.46
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
3.02
Sharpe ratio
59.18%
% Profitable
5 months
Strategy age
155.41
1.430
Average Leverage
20.2 hours
Trade Speed
|
(5.1%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+15.8%
Cumul. Returnsince Apr 01, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
COMM 3F RTM![]()
Manager:
LeslieGray
|
|
$75/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(2.95%)
($3,390)
(5.5%)
($6,470)
+7.96%
+$8,200
+10.6%
+$11,500
|
12
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.68
:1
W:L Ratio
$80,000
Suggested Capital
1.00
Sharpe ratio
56.41%
% Profitable
7 months
Strategy age
220.44
1.010
Average Leverage
16.5 days
Trade Speed
|
(17.2%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+10.6%
Cumul. Returnsince Jan 26, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
US Long Short Equity![]()
Manager:
MjoelnerCapital
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(0.35%)
($400)
+6.67%
+$7,000
-
$0
+11.7%
+$12,300
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.60
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
3.07
Sharpe ratio
53.44%
% Profitable
3 months
Strategy age
119.66
1.700
Average Leverage
31.2 days
Trade Speed
|
(4.6%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+11.7%
Cumul. Returnsince May 07, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
MarketMinds FnO![]()
Manager:
PAFI
|
|
$149/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+5.89%
+$6,100
-
$0
-
$0
+9.6%
+$10,200
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.10
:1
W:L Ratio
$60,000
Suggested Capital
1.74
Sharpe ratio
73.20%
% Profitable
2 months
Strategy age
71.26
1.271
Average Leverage
15.6 days
Trade Speed
|
(8.1%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+9.6%
Cumul. Returnsince Jun 24, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
WavePivot![]()
Manager:
QUANTICK
|
|
$99/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+6.0%
+$6,700
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.74
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
1.12
Sharpe ratio
40.00%
% Profitable
4 months
Strategy age
146.53
5.028
Average Leverage
4.8 days
Trade Speed
|
(8.8%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+6.0%
Cumul. Returnsince Apr 10, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
DT LS Mix![]()
Manager:
Systematic_Trader
|
|
$249/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(2.08%)
($2,280)
(9.28%)
($10,910)
+5.71%
+$5,700
+5.1%
+$7,350
|
11
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.09
:1
W:L Ratio
$100,000
Suggested Capital
0.42
Sharpe ratio
29.58%
% Profitable
6 months
Strategy age
211.45
3.095
Average Leverage
2.0 hours
Trade Speed
|
(17.4%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+5.1%
Cumul. Returnsince Feb 04, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
ZEN1 ES![]()
Manager:
Zen
|
|
$100/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+6.9%
+$2,200
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.46
:1
W:L Ratio
$30,000
Suggested Capital
37.50%
% Profitable
24 days
Strategy age
24.33
8.411
Average Leverage
79.400 mins
Trade Speed
|
(5.3%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+6.9%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 10, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
SPY Option Pro![]()
Manager:
GSPTrader
|
|
$250/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
+1.73%
+$900
+6.52%
+$3,210
-
$0
+4.1%
+$3,180
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.67
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.35
Sharpe ratio
65.33%
% Profitable
3 months
Strategy age
113.39
2.097
Average Leverage
6.9 hours
Trade Speed
|
(3.4%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+4.1%
Cumul. Returnsince May 13, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
0DTE Magic Trend Mini![]()
Manager:
QuantX
|
|
$125/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(0.78%)
($120)
(18.06%)
($3,460)
-
$0
+52.4%
+$6,050
|
17
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.29
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
1.12
Sharpe ratio
65.67%
% Profitable
5 months
Strategy age
163.75
25.222
Average Leverage
8.1 hours
Trade Speed
|
(28.2%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+52.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Mar 24, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Avata![]()
Manager:
AlphaEdge
|
|
$99/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+1.6%
+$960
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.57
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
57.14%
% Profitable
15 days
Strategy age
15.61
0.489
Average Leverage
14.0 days
Trade Speed
|
(1.3%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+1.6%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 19, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Data Analytics Futures![]()
Manager:
JourneyInvesting
|
|
$150/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(14.67%)
($900)
+6.10%
+$280
(39.34%)
($2,900)
+38.5%
+$2,570
|
31
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.15
:1
W:L Ratio
$25,000
Suggested Capital
0.80
Sharpe ratio
51.20%
% Profitable
8 months
Strategy age
265.23
11.829
Average Leverage
2.1 hours
Trade Speed
|
(74.3%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+38.5%
Cumul. Returnsince Dec 12, 2024 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Accumulate Alpha B![]()
Manager:
James-Yang
|
|
$50/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(0.18%)
($180)
+0.03%
+$40
-
$0
+2.1%
+$2,490
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.46
:1
W:L Ratio
$15,000
Suggested Capital
0.57
Sharpe ratio
46.28%
% Profitable
4 months
Strategy age
142.66
0.404
Average Leverage
5.5 days
Trade Speed
|
(3.8%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+2.1%
Cumul. Returnsince Apr 14, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
Safe Leverage Bets![]()
Manager:
Predictable
|
|
$99/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
(2.67%)
($350)
(6.97%)
($930)
(0.67%)
($80)
+17.4%
+$2,680
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
1.30
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
1.07
Sharpe ratio
47.29%
% Profitable
6 months
Strategy age
210.08
9.625
Average Leverage
47.700 mins
Trade Speed
|
(16.0%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+17.4%
Cumul. Returnsince Feb 05, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
|
DayTrade Algo![]()
Manager:
Arik_Sh
|
|
$20/month Subscription fee |
![]()
New
52-Week High
New
90-day High
-
$0
-
$0
-
$0
+3.2%
+$390
|
1
C2 Heart Attack Index
2.09
:1
W:L Ratio
$35,000
Suggested Capital
55.74%
% Profitable
23 days
Strategy age
23.79
0.601
Average Leverage
5.6 hours
Trade Speed
|
(1.7%)
Maximum drawdown
|
+3.2%
Cumul. Returnsince Aug 11, 2025 |
Watch
Watchlist
Loading...
|
All results are hypothetical data. Learn what this means. Remember: trading is risky. You can lose money.
About these results
About the results you see on this Web site
Past results are not necessarily indicative of future results.
These results are based on simulated or hypothetical performance results. Hypothetical performance results have many inherent limitations, some of which are described below. No representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particular trading program.
One of the limitations of hypothetical performance results is that they are generally prepared with the benefit of hindsight. In addition, hypothetical trading does not involve financial risk, and no hypothetical trading record can completely account for the impact of financial risk in actual trading. For example, the ability to withstand losses or to adhere to a particular trading program in spite of trading losses are material points which can also adversely affect actual trading results. There are numerous other factors related to the markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program which cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results.
You may be interested to learn more technical details about how Collective2 calculates the hypothetical results you see on this web site.
Material assumptions and methods used when calculating results
The following are material assumptions used when calculating any hypothetical monthly results that appear on our web site.
- Profits are reinvested. We assume profits (when there are profits) are reinvested in the trading strategy.
- Starting investment size. For any trading strategy on our site, hypothetical results are based on the assumption that you invested the starting amount shown on the strategy's performance chart. In some cases, nominal dollar amounts on the equity chart have been re-scaled downward to make current go-forward trading sizes more manageable. In these cases, it may not have been possible to trade the strategy historically at the equity levels shown on the chart, and a higher minimum capital was required in the past.
- All fees are included. When calculating cumulative returns, we try to estimate and include all the fees a typical trader incurs when AutoTrading using AutoTrade technology. This includes the subscription cost of the strategy, plus any per-trade AutoTrade fees, plus estimated broker commissions if any.
- "Max Drawdown" Calculation Method. We calculate the Max Drawdown statistic as follows. Our computer software looks at the equity chart of the system in question and finds the largest percentage amount that the equity chart ever declines from a local "peak" to a subsequent point in time (thus this is formally called "Maximum Peak to Valley Drawdown.") While this is useful information when evaluating trading systems, you should keep in mind that past performance does not guarantee future results. Therefore, future drawdowns may be larger than the historical maximum drawdowns you see here.
Trading is risky
There is a substantial risk of loss in futures and forex trading. Online trading of stocks and options is extremely risky. Assume you will lose money. Don't trade with money you cannot afford to lose.
Suggested Minimum Capital
This is our estimate of the minimum amount of capital to follow a strategy, assuming you use the smallest reasonable AutoTrade Scaling % for the strategy.
Trade Speed
Technically, this is actually the average trade duration. When positions are legged-in and legged-out (i.e. incrementally or partially opened or closed) we measure the time from first being flat to ultimately being flat again for the instrument in question.
About C2Star Certification
This is our estimate of the minimum amount of capital to follow a strategy, assuming you use the smallest reasonable AutoTrade Scaling % for the strategy.